[lacrosse34]

alright so i knooow I KNOWWWW oxodrol 12 is suppose to be bad for u if ur 18. But im 18 and i tried methandrol 50 and had awesome gains on it with no side effects. I'm 5'11 190lbs and less than 10% body fat. I have a strict propper diet for bulking and take a surplus of protein, calories, and carbs. I do know how to lift properly and more importantly how to eat properly. So, is oxodrol 12 really that detrimental to me if i supp it with milk thistle and red yeast rice and propper pct after if i know what im doing and have a good diet? dont bash me for being 18 because i know what im doing here, im just torn between playing it safe and sticking with creatine and protein and NO's, or trying out oxodrol especially when i did methandrol 50 with no problem. Also i read somewhere on this forum that after u take a supplement like this it can stop ur natural gains?? is that really true cause out of the hundreds of forums and posts i'v read i never heard that. help me out here. thanks

[maxpower15]

just because you don't notice any sides dosen't mean your body wasn't negatively effected in a major way. You could have damaged your liver, blood pressure, kidneys, heart, cholestorol, etc, and not have a clue that theres any problem.
Second, methandrol 50 is a weak ass product compared to oxodrol in way of effectiveness as well as sides.
It can halt or slow natural gains, it can cause a multitude of adverse health problems now and down the road, and most of all you don't need it when you're 18 because you're at the prime time of your life for building natural muscle. Don't be dumb man.

[lacrosse34]

alright so maxpower, what can i do besides everything that i'm doing to get bigger?? i know its contradictory but i hate it when kids my age are bigger then me and they probably take steroids, and i dont, so i look smaller. i hate looking smaller, that gets me mad. other people dont look at them as o but he takes steroids, they take it as o damn he's bigger then u..no matter who u r, even though im 18, i dont like seein ppl bigger then me my age. I compete with all the 28 year olds at the gym and im bigger then a lot of em but that doesnt do it for me. im doing all i can and i train my ass of so hard and im more dedicated than these guys who r takin designer steroids or a lot of the time dbol. i know im bitchin but whatever..My boy sells dbol at 5mg a cap and iv come so close to buyin them from him but the fact that theyre quick gains and will most likely not last is the only thing that stops me. So are there any supps i can take that ud recommend that would be ok for me being 18? or can i take methandrol again being that its weak but can that be used for bulking? get at me with some help. thanks

[Caleb56]

You cant be like that because there will always be someone bigger than you, not because you dont train as hard as them, but because of genetics. Just continue to train hard and make your decisions up. I wouldnt do any prohormones or steroids at 18 wait till your atleast 21, and remember muscle takes time too build.

[lacrosse34]

with the cycle im doing now, im on Universal nutritions aniaml pak (multi-vitamin) stack II, and M-stack. are those okay to be taking when im 18? im pretty happy with it. im also taking Universals Torrent for post workout as well as CEE on my off days and before bed as well as glutamine and pro zma even though i dont really need it, its just to make sure my body stays in an anabolic state while im sleeping. but is the universal line a good to go for me if i want to run it again?

[maxpower15]

[lacrosse34]

umm its not off topic if we're talking about if its okay for me to be taking being that im 18...

[maxpower15]

[Wildman95]

took it twice. first time i gained a solid 12 lbs and my strength went through the roof. second time i didnt see quite the same gains but was still pleased with the product. i would recommend it to anyone 21 or older as long as they take it as instructed.