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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:06 am    Post subject: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


Im just after ordering 10,000 IU's hcg and it should arrive in 3 weeks or so.
Im gonna give this diet a blast to see how it goes, i've seen people lose 1lb of fat per DAY!!
I'll keep you guys posted.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


I'd just use ECA, but let us know how it works.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


Kevsworld wrote:
I'd just use ECA, but let us know how it works.


The HCG diet is supposed to be brilliant.

I think i just got scammed for $90 with my Hcg, i'll buy some more else where and then let you guys know.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


I got my HCG sent to my sisters house in the uk so just waiting on her to send it now.
I had to play the greed card with drugdelivery.ca to get my stuff.
They saidthat they sent it but uk customs sent it back, thats a lie coz if they wouldnt allow it in the would have distroyed it NOT sent it back.
I told them a few mates were waiting on my order to arrive and then they would order, lol dopes fell for it.

Dont order from them, there scamming pricks.

LOL I just scammed a scammer Laughing

I'll let you's know how it goes when i use it!!!

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Ok on day 2 of this Hcg diet,
Im going to stay on it for 25 days in which i'll be expecting to lose at least 20lbs of fat.
I'm injecting 200iu's per day Intra muscular, i'm noticing some agrevation/irritation from it which can be a side effect from it but i'm not flipping out or anything, just getting pissed of a little with people that piss me off anyway.

The protocol say that i'm to eat as normal for the first 3 days of the diet but then 'm to drop it to 500kcals per day.

I know crash diets are forbidden especially since i'm a gym instructor but because of the hcg it actually preserves muscle mass.
When the diet ends is kinda dodgy coz all sugar must continue to be avoided for 3 weeks after and starchy foods, i'm to gradually increase my food intake so as not to add the fat back on.

As soon as this is over im jumping on a cycle and probably say on for nearly a year on a blast and cruise style cycle but maybe i might just run a 12 weeks cycle and come off and then next cycle i'll do the blast and cruis cycle, not sure yet.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


Ok just finished day 7 and i'm down 1kg(2.2lbs) since yesterday and 1.5kg overall.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


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Ok on day 2 of this Hcg diet,
Im going to stay on it for 25 days in which i'll be expecting to lose at least 20lbs of fat.
I'm injecting 200iu's per day Intra muscular, i'm noticing some agrevation/irritation from it which can be a side effect from it but i'm not flipping out or anything, just getting pissed of a little with people that piss me off anyway.

The protocol say that i'm to eat as normal for the first 3 days of the diet but then 'm to drop it to 500kcals per day.

I know crash diets are forbidden especially since i'm a gym instructor but because of the hcg it actually preserves muscle mass.
When the diet ends is kinda dodgy coz all sugar must continue to be avoided for 3 weeks after and starchy foods, i'm to gradually increase my food intake so as not to add the fat back on.

As soon as this is over im jumping on a cycle and probably say on for nearly a year on a blast and cruise style cycle but maybe i might just run a 12 weeks cycle and come off and then next cycle i'll do the blast and cruis cycle, not sure yet.


Im skeptical, let me know how it goes
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


The Hcg is used to force the body to turn to fat storage for energy rather than muscle.
Im on day 8 now and im still going strong, eating about 5-600kcals per day.
The reasone im not hungry is because my energy demands ARE BEING MET.
If i run out of energy my body takes more fat and converts it to energy.
Fat is a really good source or energy, infact i'm just about sure fat creates 100 ATP units where as the next closest to that is 39 i think, so in fact it's superb for energy.

I will say it is an odd feeling while on this diet, this is so because i can feel my stomach empty but i have to be able to tell the difference between this and being actually hungry.
Most people eat as soon as they feel their stomach emptying, mistaking it for being hungry, hence the reason nearly everyone is overfat!!

My sleep is alot deeper and i just dont want to wake up, im having really odd dreams too, last nyt i had a dream that i was getting a stretch mark all the way around my 2 claves(just above) soon after my skin ripped off where the stretch marks were, my dreams are very intence but its kinda funny Laughing

I havent weighed myself today but i will as soon as i get into work, im expecting to be about another 1lb down since yesterday.

My daily diet is as follows:

11am upon waking- 1 dry slice of brown bread

1pm - 200iu's of HCG(doesnt matter when you inject as long as its around the same time everyday)

2pm - 1 Apple

5pm - Small chicken salad (chicken, half an egg, 1 tomatoe, small bit of red onion and lettuce)

8pm - 1 slice of dry brown bread

11pm - 1 Apple

I do feel as if i'm a tad hungry when finished most meals but leave it a few minutes and i feel all good again.

The key is to keep telling yourself ''my energy demands ARE being met''

Drink plenty of water.

I know very seasoned bodybuilders that use this.

Please note: This only gets rid of abnormal fat(if your over fat), it wount touch essential fats and structural fat so it's no good for a contest prep diet!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


[quote="Nowler"]The Hcg is used to force the body to turn to fat storage for energy rather than muscle.
Im on day 8 now and im still going strong, eating about 5-600kcals per day.
The reasone im not hungry is because my energy demands ARE BEING MET.
If i run out of energy my body takes more fat and converts it to energy.
Fat is a really good source or energy, infact i'm just about sure fat creates 100 ATP units where as the next closest to that is 39 i think, so in fact it's superb for energy.

Glyoysis = 36 ATP
Krebbs = up to 120 ATP (depends on what type of chained fat)

But you were on the money with it!!!!

And when you say you have enough energy, your talking aerobically right? I assume this since your having to run off of fat. I wonder how well HCG would work on a Ketone diet... Looks like I have some research to do!!!!!

I'd actually LOVE to do my thesis over that, too bad it would never be accepted/passed by the boards.

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The Hcg is used to force the body to turn to fat storage for energy rather than muscle.
Im on day 8 now and im still going strong, eating about 5-600kcals per day.
The reasone im not hungry is because my energy demands ARE BEING MET.
If i run out of energy my body takes more fat and converts it to energy.
Fat is a really good source or energy, infact i'm just about sure fat creates 100 ATP units where as the next closest to that is 39 i think, so in fact it's superb for energy.

Glyoysis = 36 ATP
Krebbs = up to 120 ATP (depends on what type of chained fat)

But you were on the money with it!!!!

And when you say you have enough energy, your talking aerobically right? I assume this since your having to run off of fat. I wonder how well HCG would work on a Ketone diet... Looks like I have some research to do!!!!!

I'd actually LOVE to do my thesis over that, too bad it would never be accepted/passed by the boards.


I thought is was something like that, i kept saying 39 during the course too rather than 36 Rolling Eyes i'll get it eventually.

Another thing i should add thats very important and i only thought of it when you asked was it aerobicly that my energy was being met.

You ''CANNOT'' lift ANY weights or do ANY cardio while on this as you will push it away from fat storage and just mess up the entire diet.

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And when you say you have enough energy, your talking aerobically right? I assume this since your having to run off of fat. I wonder how well HCG would work on a Ketone diet... Looks like I have some research to do!!!!!

I'd actually LOVE to do my thesis over that, too bad it would never be accepted/passed by the boards.


I suppose you could say that mate.

How many kcals would you be consuming on a ketone diet?

It COULD work but i DOUBT it, little things like skin lotion and make up have been said to halt fat loss ''in their tracks'' so i extremely cautious not to eat anything else other than what i stated above incase it halts it.


Honestly, if im going ok on it i dont see why anyone would chance it by eating anything else, after all i'm comming directly from an over indulging 3000+ kcal diet into a very strict 500-600kcal one over night.

I'm more worried about the end of the diet when i have to add more food to my diet slowly without piling it all back on, like what happen when people crash diet.
I'm pretty sure i'll be ok though, i'm read to jump on a cycle as soon as i get the green light as my body will be primed for one when im done this, no food chemicals or toxins in my body because of the clean food i'm eating.
Not sure how soon after the diet that i can start the cycle, im egar to jump on so as the introduction off AAS will make my digesting and shuttleing of foods/nutrients more efficent so as not to gain much if any fat.

Nah i doubt they be to happy with you doing a thesis on that but maybe they will, look into it and see.
Is Hcg illegal there?
If not you might be allowed to do that for your thesis?!?!

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[quote="Still An Athlete"]
Nowler wrote:
The Hcg is used to force the body to turn to fat storage for energy rather than muscle.
Im on day 8 now and im still going strong, eating about 5-600kcals per day.
The reasone im not hungry is because my energy demands ARE BEING MET.
If i run out of energy my body takes more fat and converts it to energy.
Fat is a really good source or energy, infact i'm just about sure fat creates 100 ATP units where as the next closest to that is 39 i think, so in fact it's superb for energy.

Glyoysis = 36 ATP
Krebbs = up to 120 ATP (depends on what type of chained fat)

But you were on the money with it!!!!

And when you say you have enough energy, your talking aerobically right? I assume this since your having to run off of fat. I wonder how well HCG would work on a Ketone diet... Looks like I have some research to do!!!!!

I'd actually LOVE to do my thesis over that, too bad it would never be accepted/passed by the boards.



That makes no sense, why not just go on a keto diet. Than youd be working on fat storage, otherwise your body will feed on muscle(protein) because its easier to break down.

Also your body needs to adapt to any changes in diet, and needs more than one day. Your body is gonna enter starvation mode cutting down calories that much and that fast.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


In a ketone diet you still lose a chunk of muscle mass... Any time you work anaerobically you would be working on protein enzymes.

So using HCG while on a ketone may be a pretty good idea.... Along with all the other gear you can get your hands on of course Smile

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Nowler wrote:
The Hcg is used to force the body to turn to fat storage for energy rather than muscle.
Im on day 8 now and im still going strong, eating about 5-600kcals per day.
The reasone im not hungry is because my energy demands ARE BEING MET.
If i run out of energy my body takes more fat and converts it to energy.
Fat is a really good source or energy, infact i'm just about sure fat creates 100 ATP units where as the next closest to that is 39 i think, so in fact it's superb for energy.

Glyoysis = 36 ATP
Krebbs = up to 120 ATP (depends on what type of chained fat)

But you were on the money with it!!!!

And when you say you have enough energy, your talking aerobically right? I assume this since your having to run off of fat. I wonder how well HCG would work on a Ketone diet... Looks like I have some research to do!!!!!

I'd actually LOVE to do my thesis over that, too bad it would never be accepted/passed by the boards.



That makes no sense, why not just go on a keto diet. Than youd be working on fat storage, otherwise your body will feed on muscle(protein) because its easier to break down.

Also your body needs to adapt to any changes in diet, and needs more than one day. Your body is gonna enter starvation mode cutting down calories that much and that fast.


I'm not sure of the specifics mate but the hcg stops the body from eating to much protein.
When someone comes off this diet there muscles are flat but this is due to lack of glycogen and something else(cant remember) but when you graduly introduct other foods into the diet then you muscles will fill back up again.

Honestly, this diet has some good feed back Very Happy

I did weigh myself yesterday but i cant remember what i weighed, i'll check again 2morro.
Still going good, not really hungry but stomach is empty enough.
I will say though, i'm very tired today, not sure EXACTLY why, not sure if it's the diet alone or if it's due to the fact that i was working last nyt till 10pm, home and in bed by 11pm but up at 5am for work again??
Could be both!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: HCG Diet Reply with quote  


Down 6.6lbs in 8 days today
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Just to up date, i stopped the diet due to personal reasons.
Im still down 7 lbs so all is good.
Im about to stop the hcg and gradually start back eating more food.

I'll be starting it again in a few short weeks and will be expecting 25-30lb fat loss

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The diet is finished now, i stopped the diet 10 days after i started while still injecting the hcg (last day 2day) i lost 7lbs in 10 days which is impressive.
My diet was kinda bad after the 10 day mark but i didnt gain one single lb.
My diet will be clean as hell from 2day onwards because im comming off the hcg, so time will tell if i gain any weight.
Im expecting 2lbs of a gain as it will be glycogen/water but i should not get any fat gains.

Im taking a break of about 5 weeks from the hcg and then im going to nail a 25lbs fat loss off it in 30 days.

I think this diet can help lots of over weight people, 11-12%bf +

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Ok starting back up again, today was the first injection, i get to eat as normal for 2 more days then i start the VLCD (Very Low Calorie Diet).

It suits me to start right now as i need to cut alot of weight b4 my fitness instructor graduation in october (i think) also i have to fly to england in two weeks to do my mentorship program in sports hypnosis which if successful will give me the title ''Mental Performance Coach, Sports Specialist'' (M.P.C S.S).
I am also testing a new bodybuilding compound called ''naltrexrone'' for the steroid community and i'm going to get liver values checked while on it.
This is supposed to be a wonder drug that stops supression while on cycle and halts testicular atrophy too, it will reduce the need for a big PCT and will make coming ''off cycle'' easier and will help keep more gains due to rapid natural testosterone comeback.

Hopefully i nail the HCG this time and stay on for longer.

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Is nowler a test subject?


Laughing
Test subject is to sophisticated, more like guinne-pig Twisted Evil

Nah it relativly safe so i should be ok.

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Yesterday was day 1 of the low calories and this morning i was down 1lb.
I love the feeling of an empting stomach Very Happy
Im having a bet with a bloke that works in the bar of the gym i work in that i will weigh in less than him next saturday and he can workout and i wount.
He weighs 83.5kg(183.7lbs) I weigh 85.5kg(188.1) as of 2day so i have 6 days to shift at least 4.4 lbs, that is only if he doesnt lose any in the mean time.

Im pretty confidant that i can shift 6lbs and maybe dehydrate another .5-1lb.

As soon as im finished this diet in 20 days i will be ready to start my cycle as i'll be primed and ready to rock and roll.
I'll wait bout 25 days b4 i start.

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Water deplete!!! You'll definately win the bet!

If you were able to lift right now you could deplete glycogen also... But unfortunately you can't. You'd look flat as hell if you did though!

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Water deplete!!! You'll definately win the bet!

If you were able to lift right now you could deplete glycogen also... But unfortunately you can't. You'd look flat as hell if you did though!


I'm pretty confidant that i can bet him without dehydrating myself but i'll wait and see next friday morning and if im far off i'll just use the PGCL Duretic i have here, that shit will deplete the ocean of water Shocked

I was down another lb yesterday and prolly down another today, im just going to work now so i'll let you guy know when i get home.

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Im down 6.5lb in the last 4-5 days Very Happy
Only 3 more in the next 3 days to win the bet.

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