[talsafi90210]

hello every one i am very new to this site. and not to offend any one i am a horribal speller. ok here goes my question
as the subject suggest i want to get lean mass. no i am not naive . and i know that with d-bol i will give you water resitaion. but that is why i got
T-3's and i might even get clen. my goal is to lose about 3%-4% body fat and gain a good 10-15 pounds of mussule. i will be dieting of course and traning hard. 5 meals a day with protine in every meal. so what is my questions
1) will it work?
2)should i get " over the counter" shit to control water resitation?
3)i have over 400 tab of d-bol. more than enough for an 8 week cycle.
but i heard that you should only take 4-5 tabs a day for no more than 5 weeks. so how much should i take?
4) should i take T-3's at the very beging of the cycle or 2 week during the cycle.
ps
i will be also takeing clomid at the end of the cycle
thx for your help in advance

[steveo]

D-bol is not a lean mass steriod. and you should not take it for more than 5 weeks. if you want lean mass go with prop. d-bol should not be taken alone. if you already have it, then you need to pick up some test too.

[getNbig]

Sounds pretty Shitty to me you can't really GAIN muscle and lose fat at the same time! Either your gonna gain muscle or lose fat Now You can TRY to just gain lean muscle mass and eat as clean as you can to see the results of the lean mass you might be gaining and the big of body fat maybe It tough I'm going to try to gain LEAN MUSCLE mass myself!! in a month i'm looking to try to put on 10-15lbs but to be realistic i'd be happy to get 7-8lbs of lean mass out of it BUT i'm confident that i will!! but my cycle is going to look like this:

Test Prop 600mg week 1-12
Winstrol 50mg EOD 1-10
Anavar 25-50mg ED 1-12
Tren. 75mg EOD 1-8
Proviron 25mg EOD 2-12
nolvadex 20mg ED 1-12
Also Igf-1 (first time trying it)

But that is a GREAT lean mass cycle there! not Dbol, cytomel, and clen not going to do much to be honest. HAVE TO HAVE TEST in a CYCLE!!!! or your wasteing your $

[talsafi90210]

ok thank you guys for your input. so from what i gather here is that i can only gain mass or can only loss fat not both for it is very hard or imposiable. so is it ok to take cytomel, and clen for fat loss alone or should i mix it with some thing else for cutting? and the other thing that i gathered is that i should save D-Bol for a mass gain cycle and mix it with test. but how long should the cycle be? i am new so takeing a 12 week cycle would give me major side effects. and speaking of the devil should i be takeing an antiestrogine with the D-Bol and test during the cycle. or just use clomid after or both? i heard that takeing an antiestorgine with any cycle will hinder your gains is that true or is it a load of bullshit?
thanks for helping out

[chosn1]

where are you getting your roids from