[maxpower15]

You take it the same EVERY day. If its two pills, you take two pill every day, workout day, rest day, whatever its the same. How old are you again? Hawthorne berry is an absolute must imo.

[metamuscle]

you guys are putting to much thought in to your pct. i have done a cycle of this and this has a higher amount of compound compared to superdrol , but it is much safer. i took ryr,milk, with this through the cycle and then formadrol will do the trick . i have been done about a week and half and feel great , i did use the ryr and the milk with my pct.
dont go wasting cash on clomid or nolva or hawthorn you dont need it, atleast i didnt.[/b]

[maxpower15]

How do you figure its safer when its the exact same compound? You're right though you don't need clomid, but you do need hawthorne berries. Did you get your blood pressure checked regularly during your cycle? I did and it went up quite a bit so I'd say anything that would combat that would not be a waste, especially when it cost $4.88 like a bottle of hawthorne does at walmart. You need nolva on hand because gyno DOES happen during and after sd cycles, sometimes months after, not for everyone, not for most even, but its good to be prepared if it does.

[Jay]

[metamuscle]

No i didnt get high blood pressure, my sister checked it every three days , by the way she is a doctor. I think my knowlege of the sport of BodyBuilding proceeds itself. at 20 i won my first local contest, at 22 i won my first state contest and at 25 i placed in Mr. America. left the sport because i didnt want to deal with enhancement drugs anymore . At 39 still in great shape. So i f you want to use hawthorn, nolva go ahead its your money, but with oxodrol you wont get bitch tits, and oxodrol added the extra herbs for blood, liver, heart. but then what do i know. dont get me wrong i wish you all the luck on your cycle, and after you are through you will notice a fast recovery and you will keep most of your gains

[gatoflaco]

[maxpower15]

[metamuscle]

IF YOUR SET ON IT BUY IT, or you can just add celery seed to your diet does the same thing. if your eating alot of fish or chicken it taste great. and look if you do your cycle and he does his cycle i will being doing another here in two weeks . the point is we will all take something back from each other. face no matter what size we are now you always want more. everyone here does. so lets just say we agree to disagree. i will tellyou i did have one side effect from this. at 39 i broke out like a teenager yes zits. dude really i know where your coming from with 4.88 i know thats not alot, i just always look at things like thats 5 bucks towards some good egg protien or something. also with some sups.. if you shop sams they have all of that shit in larger bottles for almost equal price

[maxpower15]

My only problem is that alot of dudes come on here that are less experienced and they are looking to do research on how to run these cycles and they get dudes like you telling them that they don't need this or that, we've had people like you say you don't even need a pct or support supps at all! Thats how dudes mess themselves up. Look, your blood pressure ain't nothin to play around with. I personally know literally dozens of people who have used Superdrol or one of its clones and literally EVERY one of them had an increase of blood pressure in one way or another. I personally thought it was one of the worst sides of the product. So if less experienced dudes come on here looking for advice, my advice will always be, and always should be, to take supps that support healthy blood pressure, such as hawthorne berries or celery seed extract. Thats my 2 cents and I'm done.

[metamuscle]

Mp
if your a expert in the subject great, if not dont talk like one. these items are being banned by the FDA ON A REGULAR BASIS although they may carry some side effect that you could get from eating to much chocolate,beer,or to much salt in your diet. we talk about them on this forum like they are as strong as their counterpart and they are no where near as strong and yes i am a expert in that cat. that is why these are being banned by the FDA they read this shit. not because poeple like me dude, you dont even know me. its people that get on here and talk like they are taking anadrol or something. also most of your bad sides come with abuse of the product. personally i know you dont give a shit . but what exprience do you bring to the table, what because you did a few cycles....ok ..its great that you help , but make sure they have done some research on there own.

thread is getting boring im out

[nasdstang]

first off dude! max has the experience and knowledge, im not going to get into his credits, if he wants, hell tell you. you have not proven shit to us, and you havent been on these boards long enough to try and question one of our vets!
sides from oxodrol are the same as drinking beer or eating chocolate?!! dumbest statement ever!!!
get gyno or bad back pumps from chocolate

theres a couple reasons shit gets banned, 1, because people like you give the wrong advice based on your experience with the compound, when everyones body reacts different, as already stated
and 2, people dont do the research and fuck themselves up, and some just straight out abuse them

we dont mind helping each other out, but since you seem to know everything, guess you wont be needing any advice

[dangetinthere]

[metamuscle]

AHHHH
WE WER TALKING ABOUT HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. all three of those things can cause a raise in blood pressure. thats what i was taking about.
back pumps yea i know what they are.. but you hit the botton right on the nose. if we are to help each other , and i give a op. you wanna hang me from the cross. shouldnt it be more of a how did you come to a conclusion
meta. things like what happened in your cycle, what did you experence to make you think you didnt need certain items in your pct or through your cycle or what did you add or how did you feel through it. Mp has his op i have mine I DONT DISLIKE ANYONE HERE , I DONT KNOW YOU but just have a open mind . if someone is reading all this stuff to get all the answers then M.p is right about that person needs to do some research on there own. and i am sure there are thing that you guys can help me with. i mean when i was in compititions i used enhancers to bulk to cut, but like i said i wont do anything that drastic anymore, so there are thing that i dont know outside of that. so yea everybody has things that work that i may pick up on. i was just saying that oxodrol worked and i didnt see any of the side except acne . get it while you can its a banned item now.

[gatoflaco]

[jerry8388]

[jw47130]

Hey fellas, after a week of reading several threads and posts, and not being able to gain much mass w/ little help. I decided to register and make a post myself. I just finished ordering Oxodrol-12 and looking forward to its arrival next week.

Here's the planned cycle (comments/suggestions?):

Week 1 - preload with supps (MT, FO, HB & RYR)
Week 2 - O12 - 24mg w/ supps
Week 3-5 - O12 - 36mg w/ supps
Week 4-8/9 - RXT w/ supps (Nolva, just in case)

Obvious 1gal+ water intake daily, w/ sports drink for electros.

Here's what I'm currently doing:
Currently taking in 3000-3400 cal/d. As well as NitroTech in AM/PM. Pro bars through day - totally in 210-220 g/pro a day (I weight 217 and 6ft3in)

Daily supps:
L-Glutamine - 1000mg
Creatine-6 - 5.4g
DHEA - 25mg
Fish Oil - 900mg

I have a question that I really couldn't find the answer to, do I continued with protein supps (shakes, bars, etc.) as well as the creatine along with the new cycle? What about L-Glu and DHEA?

Thanks in advance! (Apologize for the long post.)

[gatoflaco]

[jw47130]

Great... thanks Gato. Wow 1.5g of protein... I'm already gassy enough. LOL!

Will work on it though, appreciate the input and will definitely start low on Oxo-12 during first week - if I go that route.

[gatoflaco]

[jw47130]

Now that I did not know. Thanks!

[maxpower15]

[gatoflaco]

Good point Max! How old are you jw47130? If you are under 21 don't even think about running Oxodrol yet.

[jw47130]

sorry guys.... i'm 33.

[wazzucoug6]

hey guys,

im new to the whole oxodrol...ive been reading everything you guys have said about it. it really sounds like a good product if you use it right and make sure youre eating right. i'm thinking of starting a cycle but not until the summer when i'm home from college and i can make sure that i eat perfectly without drinking.

everybody has their own opinions on the cycles and pct. i want to know what would be the best for a first time cycle.

[gatoflaco]